Friday, August 28, 2015

Editor's Note August 28, 2015

In this video I discuss the video I posed yesterday where the graphic that might be misinterpreted as some sort of accusation. It is not, and no one has said that it seemed like one, but I just thought if I went ahead and switched it out it could prevent anyone who might have such an interpretation. I can be clear about the fact that when I used the image it was just a random picture from a Google search. I also wanted to thank everyone who participated in the conference calls this week to prepare for the hangout. I think the hangout this week is going to be better for having done them.


Below are the comments from the Facebook thread where the original picture was posted. 


  • Tony Davis I have lots of sympathy for anyone that has been outted when that person did not have any say so on the matter of his/her personal life to be on public display. Especially when the person is not ready or mentally equipped to answer questions concerning his/her personal life.
  • Roger Williams Tony, I think you'd make a very handsome 'first man' for him. smile emoticon
  • I was outted when I was young it's not a great feeling when someone takes a piece of your life in there hands use it for there own selfish reasons.
  • Roger Williams Tony Davis You're right. As much as these homoantagonistic preachers get on my nerves, what we need is more compassion, not more vitriol.

  • As Black people living in this crazy, racist society, we are all broken and need healing.
    • Tony Davis It does not matter if it's a person of the cloth or a person bagging groceries at the piggly wiggly. It's a violation of human rights to disclose when that individual is not ready to do so. No one has that right.
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  • Jermah Clements I only do not have sympathy for anyone preaching against me and my kind.... Like a man preaching homosexuals are bad immoral blah blah blah yet is sucking dick every other day.

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  • Damion Frost If they are DL and preaching hatred - LIGHT DAT ASS UP!!!

  • And not the way he probably wants it!!!!
  • Timothy Redd I think it's wrong to out someone but at the same time our community is so Homophobic because of a lot of what they heard in church. Is he a victim? YES, but so are the Gay members who give their time, talent, and tithes only to made the whipping board of the congregation . The black church is very much don't ask don't tell. I believe in being a leader of integrity and being transparent but instead these parts term are silence by hypocrisy and ideology. Nobody wins here because the church has blood on its HANDS for condemning and fostering hate toward the Gay community. Love and Hate can both exist and it's time these Dl pastors come out and over time I think that it will change attitudes and maybe these hypocrites can see everyone regardless their sexuality as the manifested creation of God and accept them as such and move from such a place of ignorance and hate. That's my thought Malcolm Travers.
  • Raymond R Duke I know im not a M3 Hang out Crew member, and i dont want to be (crazy schedule) but this one right here, i so could have been a guest commentator
  • Michael Lyles I honestly don't care. Lol it's not my ministry
  • Seanmichael Rodgers Im a fan. I absolutely loved that 20 minutes. I couldn't step away. Thanks for creating such a great format to be consumed in such a yummy way!
  • Xavier Spann I know this is not going to go over well with everyone. But I think it's important to think outside of ourselves. In the black community the pastor represents the foundation of its people. I have seen good pastors get out their beds at 1am and go pray with a family in the hospital. Or take their own money and bail some one out of jail who has never even seen the church, but his grandmother made that call. For that reason I think about not the harm outing him could do to him or even his family but the impact it may have on the foundation of the community. People can't to often remember all the good you do. But they will remember every wrong you ever had. I don't agree with living a double life. But I do believe in the greater good.
    • Jose Oquendo Mojica I have thoughts about your point xavier, like you say there are pastors that go above and beyond to be the best poeple they can be for the community. but do they get a pass for all the evil they perpetuate and allow to happen to a portion of that same community just cause they help people ? is it OK for them to not get up at the crack of dawn to pray with the family of parishioners if they are gay , is it ok for them to not pay for the bail of one of his parrishoners grandkids cause that person is gay?...in my opinion a person outing him isnt the one doing the damage! the pastor's double dealing is! the pastor is the one who should strive to live above reproach in all his/her actions especially if you expect to have a voice in someone else life.. and saying oh they human they just as fallable is no excuse because that dont fly for regular poeple! they should be held accountable for their actions more so because they are just as fallable.. in the mailitary we were held accountable to not just civilian law but to military law because we were soldiers we were held to higher standards than regular poeple...pastors, Cops, Elected officials should be too
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  • Michael Lyles That's a good point @Xavier
  • Raymond R Duke I caution myself, note I said myself before making comments on these matters, I know 1st that these people are having a human experience, so oooooooooooo much comes with that, 2nd no one should live above reproach, once you strive/present yourself that way, here comes the Sherlock Shade Society, and note the SSS, have yet to take that plank out of their eyes prior to pointing out yours/others. Preacher's /Pastors live their double lives because of what ppl expect not due to what they expect from themselves, not unlike men who like men but marry and have kids out of expectations and obligations not personal satisfaction. NO, I REPEAT, no clergy should do harm of any kind to anyone mental, emotional, physical, sexual or otherwise. But too many of us edify them and not them of themselves. There are always exceptions!....I have a hand full of stones but can't cast a single one, yet most throw a rock and hide their hands. I too give out no passes for erroneous behavior, but at what point do we restore. .....ahhhhhhh missed that part didn't we......historically we race to tear down buy no one sticks around for the healing g and or restoration. Finally, my theology professor ask our 2006 class if we thought there was any God. in Jeffrey Dahmer, 99% of the class was afraid to respond, with hand raised he pointed at me......I said yes, in God we live move and have our being, if there were no higher power or force at work he, dare I say we would not exist. Yet free will abounds.......just my .39 cents us tax
  • Marcus Rivers Touch not the anointed cause the prophet NO harm
  • Jimmie Ware Maybe this guy really do believe this is sin, and maybe he believes he is committing a sin. So that means is Sunday what he preaches about things like that he is talking about himself and condemning himself.
  • Q1: How much sympathy would you have for a DL pastor who gets outed?
  • A1; He deserves as much sympathy as anyone else whose privacy is violated in such a manner. While I personally have no sympathies for men on the "DL," I fully respect everyone's right to privacy and to divulge their personal and sexual information to those they deem trustworthy.

  • There are some people who have professions that do not allow them to be "out and proud" and they like to reserve and preserve their privacy. No one has the right to undo that.

  • Q2: Is he as much a victim of an outdated ideology as his congregation?
  • A2: The ideology is only outdated to those who don't subscribe to it or those who felt oppressed by it. Because he is a leader of his flock, what happens to him, in some measure, happens to them.

  • Q3: Is it hypocrisy for gay preachers who condemn homosexuality as a sin?
  • A3: I don't think it's hypocrisy to "tow the company line." If you have a job, there are policies that you agree with and policies that you don't, but for the sake of your job and livelihood, you follow all of the company's policies. Pastors are the same way, particularly those who are responsible to superiors, associations, and national officers. There is hypocrisy in every job and every employee, even when we work for ourselves..

  • SN: As to anyone who feels they have a right to out a Pastor or Clergy member, I feel sorry for them on several levels. Aside from being shallow, vindictive, and hateful, I think they are hurt by the void in their lives that used to be (or needs to be) filled with something Holy and godly.




  • CJ Washington isn't this Jamal Bryant?
  • CJ Washington but don't this meme suggest that Pastor Jamal is a DL homosexual? I don't think that is the case tho! is it??? should we be more careful about how we make blanket or individual implications about our leaders in the Black Community? I mean, idk. so I'm just asking.

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Joshua Freeman Wow are you Sirius?

  • Seanmichael Rodgers I think its shameful to out people regardless of their position in society. Pornstar to Pulpit, no one deserves to be outed. Outing them doesn't help anyone else in the closet. It provides a sense of entitlement and privilege unwarranted by those who have found peace with the sexuality they accept and identify with.
  • Brian NewDude I wouldn't have any sympathy but I would certainly have empathy. Being a pastor is a calling..one which you certainly have a CHOICE. That's what free will gives us. So for an individual who has taken on a role to minister to individuals what Biblical principals are, if he or she decides to promote the LBGT community as a "sin" knowing they also are a part of, that's just hypocritical. How can you find that concept sympathetic?
  • Cleo Manago Seanmichael, people Who feel entitled and at personal peace don't out people. Vicious, unhappy people do that.
  • Seanmichael Rodgers I appreciate that Cleo Manago, I agree.

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CJ Washington isn't this Jamal Bryant?
  • CJ Washington but don't this meme suggest that Pastor Jamal is a DL homosexual? I don't think that is the case tho! is it??? should we be more careful about how we make blanket or individual implications about our leaders in the Black Community? I mean, idk. so I'm just asking.

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Seanmichael Rodgers I think its shameful to out people regardless of their position in society. Pornstar to Pulpit, no one deserves to be outed. Outing them doesn't help anyone else in the closet. It provides a sense of entitlement and privilege unwarranted by those who have found peace with the sexuality they accept and identify with.
Brian NewDude I wouldn't have any sympathy but I would certainly have empathy. Being a pastor is a calling..one which you certainly have a CHOICE. That's what free will gives us. So for an individual who has taken on a role to minister to individuals what Biblical principals are, if he or she decides to promote the LBGT community as a "sin" knowing they also are a part of, that's just hypocritical. How can you find that concept sympathetic?
Cleo Manago Seanmichael, people Who feel entitled and at personal peace don't out people. Vicious, unhappy people do that.
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Calvin L. Marshall If he preached against homosexuality as if he wasn't gay, then I wouldn't feel too bad for him. If he was outed by a bitter ex or someone who wanted everyone to know about them and their secret relationship, then I'd be a little more sympathetic toward the pastor. I don't agree with the practice of outing anyone. People should have the right and space to come out if and when THEY want to.
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Eric Cole Mba none....pastors are respected and trusted members of the community. having sexual relationships is a conflict of interest.
Joel Derbigny I feel you can preach about salvation without labeling a lifestyle
Jeffery Brinagh don't do a sermon wont have to suffer the backlash simple
  • Torey T. Wilson Huh Eric? Having sexual relationships is a conflict of interest? They are not priests. They don't take vows of abstinence. Heterosexual ministers have sex...as we see kids as a by product of that. So you can't be gay and a preacher?
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Nolan White The sad part about this subject is that I used to date one. Wow...I really want to see the comments on this post especially since this is something that I dealt with firsthand. He used to irk me bringing up the homosexual lectures because at the end of the day, we all knew his story. Then I found out that there were a lot in the pulpit doing the same thing he was. He was in the COGIC denomination as well!
Anthony Mcrae Y'all please take my Pastor picture down from here!!!!!!!!
  • Clinton J. Davis I'd have some sympathy as long as they hadnt been hypocritical and holier than thou. However at the same time I wouldn't have much sympathy
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  • Ray Kollman In my old thot life , before I became a Thot with a thought. I'd never out anyone. I know the real world consequences of it. Unless it is someone that's really a doing danger to the community, you leave it alone.
  • If member of the church already know and willing to do anything to keep it behind closed doors. You will wind up on the wrong end of it no matter how you go about it.
  • Only time you almost come out looking some what OK is iffff the guy is a major hypocritical jerk
  • Marq Smith I don't have any sympathy UNLESS they aren't gay bashers and they don't lie or deceive people to believe otherwise.
  • If they gasy bash then oh well take them down and have fun doing it.
  • Lamont Scales Outing guys can make us all look deceitful and like a bad guy. Some of these guys are trying to figure things out, so throwing them 'out of the closet' doesn't help them embrace the lgbt community. Coming out of the closet was a process for each of us, so we should do what we can to help people with that process, and not make them feel bad, because they didn't move as fast as we did.
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